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kiahann
11-06-2006, 09:29 PM
Okay with the growing number of people wondering why Fraps is lagging Or why they can't run it im going to make a guide for everyone to look at and post into so we can sort it all out in one post instead of answering the same question in many post.

Will also explain how fraps works and how to use it

if you are new to fraps as well as movie makeing check out this lovely guide made by Unska! http://www.warcraftmovies.com/articleview.php?id=25

Ill tell you the simple questions.

Problems with Fraps.


UPDATE:
What's Better FRAPS or Gamecam?



Fraps is definatly the best. There are way more options then gamecam. Yes i have tried them both.

Results(In testing which is better thanks goes to Valamir) Fraps has better quality, gamecam used 50% more CPU power. Fraps could record at 30 FPS, Gamecam recorded at 2.

If you want a program worth the money get Fraps..you'll like it better.

FRAPS requires a really good computer to run it very smoothly if you don't have a good computer upgrade it a good thing to get is RAM get some of that to improve performance



"Im geting lag while recording FRAPS" commonly asked question this is some steps to try and not get lag

If you want know lag While recording try Improveing your computer.. Anything is good 50$ investment could get your Computer smooth with fraps.

If you can't do this "REMOVE UI" if you have it..it can Lag your computer up.

Sometimes especially in windows movie maker the footage itself can be abit laggy after you render it the lag will get better. (To render in windows movie maker use "save movie file" under the file tab save it to your computer and put .wmv after your movie) (that's for windows movie viewer codec)


if this doesnt work try puting Fraps in "Half Screen" that will be less quality but improves smoothness by a ton.

You can set Fraps to record at "Half size" which would result in an output recording of 576x432, giving you a nice final video, providing you encode it with decent quality settings

OR

Leave Fraps set to "Full size" and set your ingame resolution to something lower, like 800x600.


Still laggy and can't figure it out? Change your resolution read below.


The maximum resolution size for "Half Size" recording is 2560x1600.

For "Full size" recording the maximum resolution size is 1152x864

1280x800 (widescreen) For "WIDESCREEN" computers.

If you record with more resolution then fraps can handle it will lag you up.

UPDATE: If fraps isn't coming up letting you record ect....There "might" be somthing wrong in the installation process i would try Uninstalling it completely that means going into the fraps file and geting rid of ALL files and go back to Fraps www.fraps.com and get it again
Restart your computer as well it could help.

If all this doesn't work and your still haveing lag it could be your computer invest in geting some new hardware to get FRAPS working properly.

Achieving good quality

One thing that is good to get to improve performance and quality is to get a second hardrive it doesn't have to be somthing real big but it will put less stress on the computer therefor helping in both quality of the movie and performance.



Guide to Video Capture and misc with FRAPS.


So people don't get confused with the title I will make a guide on how to use fraps for all those new people and for the ones who are confused with some features.


First Go to FPS tab. and there will be a button called "Overlay Display Hotkey" that lets you assign a button that will toggle the frame rate counter between the four corners and off i just have it set to F12 that button won't be used much atleast i don't.



Then below it there is somthing called "Benchmarking Hotkey" that lets you assign a button that can be used to determine the average frame rate between any two points in a game. To change the Hotkey, click in the box and type a new key to be assigned this function. Clicking Disable will stop the Hotkey from having any effect.

In the right hand corner if Fraps ( We are still in the FPS Tab) there is a black box that has "Overlay Corner" with that click which ever corner you want it to display your framrate If you don't want that to show up when recording click disable which is on the bottom of the box.

After that there is a box that says "Only Update overlay once a second" That's pretty much self Explanatory it updates your framerate

The "Stop benchmarking every 60 seconds" it should already be default as 60seconds but with a open box(not checked) beside it if you check the box it will only record whatever you have it set to imagine like the trial. another words it will stop recording after 60 seconds( Or whatever you have it set for)

And the last part is 'Save detailed Benchmark statistics" There basically diffrent files you can save them in.
You can choose these
FPS - Contains the frame rate value for each second of the benchmark
frametimes - Contains the time (in milliseconds) of every frame that was rendered in the benchmark
minmaxavg - Contains the total frame count, benchmark duration, minimum, maximum, and average frame rate values.
I just stick with default FPS it's what i like.



Recording your movie and saveing it.

Now we are on to the Movies part head over to the "Movies" Tab first thing you need to change is "Video capture hotkey" you can either keep it default or change it to whatever hotkey you want that enables you to start recording your movie mine is set to F9.

Now on the bottom of the Video capture hotkey option is a option called "Record sound" it's a box

If you want to record sound click it on then keep it on "Detect best sound input"

But if you want to have music in the background i suggest you keep it unchecked.

After that there is one of the most valuble tools the FPS! it looks like this....
25fps
30fps
50fps
60fps

After that there is a blank box where you can "CHOOSE" what FPS you want Max is 100.

Fps is basically your framrate and it will be displayed on whatever corner you have set if you have it on the "fps" tab

I would Recommend Not going any higher then 30 fps (if your comp can hand it) beacause the file will be huge if it's to high.

Useing higher FPS DOES NOT increase the quality it just makes the file bigger.

If it's still laggy at 100 there is a option on the side of that, That says..."Half size" "Full-size" if it's stil laggy click half-size once again the quality will be worse but it helps with the lag that people get

The last part is in the lower right corner and it has "No Cursor" "No sync"

I would recommend Checking No cursor that way when your movie is done you don't see a cursor running around in your movie.
and Sync i would recommend checking that as well.

Okay actually the last thing is this. When your done recording your file is going to be in the FRAPS file. to get to the movies directly go to your taskbar and right click on Fraps and click on "View Movies" from there you can go into your Video editing program and put it in! and to get back into FRAPS just right click on "Settings" it will take you right back into fraps.

UPDATE: How you check if your computer is lagging is if you have FPS enabled in the corner check it if it's 30 FPS and below you might want to fix some options

If it is 40 fps and up you should be fine with video capture..


And that is it if anyone else is formilliar with fraps and would like to post any other info that might help somone get FRAPS working post here and I will update my post

Goodluck!

Amoras
11-06-2006, 11:10 PM
Nice guide!

kiahann
11-06-2006, 11:34 PM
Thanks a bunch!

The Bum
11-07-2006, 02:22 PM
That was really nice indeed :)

Zaoris
11-07-2006, 07:12 PM
A box of cookies for this one,kiahann,nice job!

kiahann
11-08-2006, 03:24 PM
Thanks everyone for the replies:D hope it helps..:top:

also updated topic.

Quazimodo
11-08-2006, 04:49 PM
I think the title is missleading of the post, I was expecting this to be a guide of how to make movies with Fraps, but it's just a guide to get less lag out of it...

Great post tho.

kiahann
11-08-2006, 04:52 PM
Valamir fixed it...thanks valamir:D

Quazimodo
11-08-2006, 05:01 PM
This is weird, it only says it in the headline of your post but the thread title is still the same.

kiahann
11-08-2006, 11:12 PM
Yeah it does that...

Valamir
11-09-2006, 12:11 AM
Sadly, all I can say is, "This is our new forum."

Ragnorok161
11-09-2006, 05:45 PM
Fraps > Gamecam

Thats why I use fraps

Quazimodo
11-09-2006, 06:05 PM
lol, that was a good reason to use fraps...

kiahann
11-09-2006, 06:40 PM
lol....Yeah fraps beats gamecam by a mile.

Quazimodo
11-09-2006, 11:02 PM
Never even heard of gamecam, and fraps is as good as it could get, the downside with it is that you have to convert it to get a less big file... but it's not possible to bypass that as it has to save the data so fast...

kiahann
11-09-2006, 11:06 PM
Gamecam is the same way...gamecam is similiar to fraps but fraps has more options.

Quazimodo
11-09-2006, 11:09 PM
Oh ok, Fraps FTW than. :P

kiahann
11-10-2006, 04:41 PM
I have UPDATED my first post for all of you who are confused about the title i now have a full guide on how to record with fraps.

My fingers are tired now.

Quazimodo
11-10-2006, 05:15 PM
Good job! :P


*Needs to spread more reputation before giving it to kiahann again*

damn!

kiahann
11-11-2006, 01:50 AM
:redface: :redface: :redface: lol.....thanks:top:

kiahann
11-11-2006, 04:27 PM
First Post Updated!:top:

The Bum
11-11-2006, 06:41 PM
Nice updates :D

kiahann
11-11-2006, 11:32 PM
Thank guys Hope it helps... and if anyone has any questions about any part feel free to post:top:

Quazimodo
11-12-2006, 12:56 PM
I think that pretty much coveres everything, except technical issues :P

Andehx
11-12-2006, 02:59 PM
Theres a few things I would like to point out in your guide.
While very informative, your guide is a little innaccurate in some places.
Let me highlight a few...

If you want no lag try puting your FPS higher the higher the FPS the smoother it is but if it's Too high you risk your movie coming out with poor quality

This is actually not true at all. If your computer lags too much when you record, setting fraps to record at a higher fps will certinly not make the recording any less laggy. Also the quality of the recording is not affected at all by the fps setting in Fraps.

If this doesnt work try fiddiling with your resolution set for the game if your in-game resolution is diffrent then your fraps resolution it can cause some lag

Ok I may have read this wrong, but Fraps has no resolution settings apart from the "Full size" "Half size" settings. Heres an example of a typical scenario where you get too much lag and you would like to improve it :-

You are playing the game at a resolution of 1152x864 (highest resolution Fraps will record) and you have Fraps set to record at "Full size"
When you hit the record button, you notice that your fps has dropped to around 12 fps. Now this is really not an acceptable fps by anyone standard really, but there are 2 options to rectify this problem.
1. You can set Fraps to record at "Half size" which would result in an output recording of 576x432, giving you a nice final video, providing you encode it with decent quality settings.
2. Leave Fraps set to "Full size" and set your ingame resolution to something lower, like 800x600.

Both options would definitly increase your fraps fps, but for lower spec computers, I would recommend option 1.

If this doesnt work try puting Fraps in "Windowed mode" that will be less quality but improves smoothness by a ton

This I really have no idea what it means, theres no windowed mode option in Fraps, so I really cant comment on it.

If you have a really really good computer use the LOWEST fps that it can stand but make sure it's as smooth as it can get to

Again this is not very accurate at all. If your computer is very good, then setting the fps in fraps to something low like 20 - 30 fps is just going to limit the computers potential. Granted I probably wouldn't want to record at anything higher than 30fps, and if my computer could record at 30fps (which mine can) I would be happy.

If you have a bad computer use the HIGHEST fps you can stand to make it "Lag free" the only problem is it makes the file bigger and the quality is horrible

And again, this simply is not the case. If your computer isnt very good, and you are having problems getting 30fps recordings, then setting fraps to something higher, like 60fps for instance, most certinly will not increase the performance of the recording. True, recording at a higher fps does indeed make the file size bigger, but it certinly does not affect the image quality at all.

Please don't take my critisizm as if I am having a go at you or anything, because I certinly am not, but I feel people who do not know much about Fraps and video recording will become somewhat confused if they follow your guide and don't see any results.

Again, my intention is to point out some mistakes, in the hopes that you can mend your guide, and if you believe that I am wrong, then I encourage you to test out some of my theories youself :top:

kiahann
11-12-2006, 06:25 PM
Theres a few things I would like to point out in your guide.
While very informative, your guide is a little innaccurate in some places.
Let me highlight a few...



This is actually not true at all. If your computer lags too much when you record, setting fraps to record at a higher fps will certinly not make the recording any less laggy. Also the quality of the recording is not affected at all by the fps setting in Fraps.



Ok I may have read this wrong, but Fraps has no resolution settings apart from the "Full size" "Half size" settings. Heres an example of a typical scenario where you get too much lag and you would like to improve it :-

You are playing the game at a resolution of 1152x864 (highest resolution Fraps will record) and you have Fraps set to record at "Full size"
When you hit the record button, you notice that your fps has dropped to around 12 fps. Now this is really not an acceptable fps by anyone standard really, but there are 2 options to rectify this problem.
1. You can set Fraps to record at "Half size" which would result in an output recording of 576x432, giving you a nice final video, providing you encode it with decent quality settings.
2. Leave Fraps set to "Full size" and set your ingame resolution to something lower, like 800x600.

Both options would definitly increase your fraps fps, but for lower spec computers, I would recommend option 1.



This I really have no idea what it means, theres no windowed mode option in Fraps, so I really cant comment on it.



Again this is not very accurate at all. If your computer is very good, then setting the fps in fraps to something low like 20 - 30 fps is just going to limit the computers potential. Granted I probably wouldn't want to record at anything higher than 30fps, and if my computer could record at 30fps (which mine can) I would be happy.



And again, this simply is not the case. If your computer isnt very good, and you are having problems getting 30fps recordings, then setting fraps to something higher, like 60fps for instance, most certinly will not increase the performance of the recording. True, recording at a higher fps does indeed make the file size bigger, but it certinly does not affect the image quality at all.

Please don't take my critisizm as if I am having a go at you or anything, because I certinly am not, but I feel people who do not know much about Fraps and video recording will become somewhat confused if they follow your guide and don't see any results.

Again, my intention is to point out some mistakes, in the hopes that you can mend your guide, and if you believe that I am wrong, then I encourage you to test out some of my theories youself :top:

"Windowed Mode" meant to say Half Screen will fix that. and for the resolution thing I meant Change your "In-game Resolution"

And for the rest ill add some of your advice in

And no problem man im glad you pointed some stuff out i was tired and messed up a few things

Rep++:D im glad you helped any Critizisim is fine by me I don't know "Everything about fraps" so any help is great.

UPDATE: I fixed everything you said thanks for the help!

Andehx
11-12-2006, 10:14 PM
no problem at all mate, glad I could help :)

kiahann
11-16-2006, 04:32 PM
Yeah it was like 3:00 am so i messed up alot and my fingers hurt from typeing so much so i made alot of mistakes:cry:

Quazimodo
11-16-2006, 08:01 PM
Everyone makes mistakes!

kiahann
11-17-2006, 05:01 AM
Found out how to fix my main title its hard but found out

Skeletal
12-06-2006, 11:07 AM
nice one.

Hentai
01-09-2007, 09:24 AM
awsome guide :)

kiahann
02-03-2007, 09:26 PM
:) Thanks thought it would help

poundd
03-29-2007, 04:55 AM
when i check no sync in the movie spot, i record my movies, but when i watch them, they are all fastforwarded by like 2x, so i uncheck my no sync button, should i keep it that way?

Valamir
03-29-2007, 05:00 AM
No sync is exactly what it says, no synchronized playback. If you want to have something that will play in a movie leave it unchecked.

kiahann
04-26-2007, 05:28 PM
First post updated toward the end of the post for resolution help.

Ayden
07-27-2007, 06:25 AM
Just upgrade my pc to a dualcore 2.13 ghz, 7950 GT nvidia, and 1 GB ddr 3 ram.
Having probs frapsing mostly in BGs. The fps is fine, when I play its just a few FPS loss as well. (at least what it feels like). However the issue is the lags. Its killing me and my movies. Been trying to fiddle around with different FRAPS and wow video settings and no luck :(

Thiras
07-27-2007, 07:39 PM
I don't understand what you mean there.

You're saying the FPS is fine, but its lagging?

Ayden
07-28-2007, 12:25 AM
I don't understand what you mean there.

You're saying the FPS is fine, but its lagging?

Ya kinda weird. Hmm will try to explain. Lets say I run at an average of 60 fps ingame. If I set fraps to record at 30 fps the game runs at 30 fps, same with 50,60 etc. Anyway the FPS INGAME is pretty steady without jumping up and down too much. But still it feels a bit laggy. Kinda like if the computer halts a split sec now and then..

Fex. I start frapsing, in AB just before I near goldmine, since thats where the action starts. Then stealth, then open with cheapshot <lag> mutilate, kidneyshot, mutilate <lag>, etc.

Thiras
07-28-2007, 09:51 AM
Ah, fps drops, right.

First of all you should look at the footage after you record something where you feel the fps drops, its entirely possible that its only visible ingame.

I would overclock that cpu a load if I were you btw :)

Ayden
07-30-2007, 08:01 AM
Im a total noob regarding that how do I do that? :>

Thiras
07-30-2007, 10:40 AM
Em okay, if you haven't overclocked before dont bother with that :P

As I said try looking at the footage and see if there are fps drops there too.

factorzz
09-15-2007, 11:07 AM
Hi there, so im start thinking about making movies but i have 1 question. I play wow at 1440x900 because i have a wide screen but as u said on the guide the max fraps will handle is 1280x800, so my question is. Should i play wow on 1280x800 when i want to record?

Oh and one more thing, when i start recording in-game the yellow fps counter turns red and stabilizes @ 30 fps is that normal?

Tks in advance stay cool!

Thiras
09-15-2007, 03:46 PM
Hi there, so im start thinking about making movies but i have 1 question. I play wow at 1440x900 because i have a wide screen but as u said on the guide the max fraps will handle is 1280x800, so my question is. Should i play wow on 1280x800 when i want to record?

Oh and one more thing, when i start recording in-game the yellow fps counter turns red and stabilizes @ 30 fps is that normal?

Tks in advance stay cool!

If your fraps version is newer than 2.8.0 *and* you have a dualcore computer fraps can record at 1440x900. If you've got a singlecore you should go 1280x800.

As to your second question, yes, that's perfectly normal.

mellun
12-10-2007, 04:53 PM
I'm having some trouble with fraps.I'm playing at 1440x900.I got fraps 2.9 and dual core cpu.I dont have any problem when i record full-size but when i try to record half-size i dont see the picture only the sound.It's black screen with sound :S i dont know what is the problem.It wasnt like that beforehand.
Simply i dont wanna record at full-size because of the file size.Sometimes i need to record 10 mins and as you can imagine the file going to be huge.
I dont think its a codec problem but i couldnt figure it out...

Zondervan
12-17-2007, 08:45 PM
Verry helpfull ty

koltzu
01-01-2008, 05:32 PM
the items that I've put on the model in WoW Model Viewer disapear of the model when I press F9 to make Fraps start recording..

Thiras
01-01-2008, 05:50 PM
F9 is the model viewer keybinding for removing all gear, bind fraps to something else

koltzu
01-01-2008, 05:52 PM
oh.. didn't check that.. thanks :P

uribemike
01-02-2008, 10:13 AM
ty... but i need know how i can record more than 30 secs... or maybe some one can link me a full verson of FRAPS.

TY

Thiras
01-02-2008, 01:01 PM
No. You'll have to buy the full version of fraps.

kiahann
01-02-2008, 01:29 PM
As Thiras said you can't get the full version without paying for it that would be illegal. if you didn't catch his drift :)

Ashuren
01-04-2008, 09:53 AM
How do you get rid of the fraps logo on your videos?

Cant get rid of it no matter what I do' and worse yet, when I have multiple models in a single set scene, I end up with two or more logos overlapping and covering the thing.

Anyone have any ideas as to how I can fix this problem?

Book
01-17-2008, 05:46 PM
Would it be an idea to save my raw clips on an external disk? Connected with a regular USB. Or wouldn't it handle it?

Thiras
01-17-2008, 09:20 PM
It can't handle direct recording very well, but if you record it to your internal hd you can copy the files to the external one afterwards.

Book
01-18-2008, 07:19 AM
Thanks, Thiras.

uribemike
01-30-2008, 09:39 AM
ty thiras.... well i need do this for the leagl way :(

Druanna
02-14-2008, 02:50 PM
I'm trying to figure out how folks record the great movies without the interface showing, yet they can still emote, talk, etc.

I know that Alt-Z turns off my interface, but when I do that, all I can do is pan the camera around or run. For example, I can't type /dance and have my toon start dancing. I type /dance and nothing happens. :\

Anyone know how folks turn off the interface but are still able to interact with their toons and make them do things?

Defiled
03-05-2008, 06:57 AM
When I record with fraps, it displays random vertical lines of color on the recording after it's saved. I've tried changing my ingame WoW settings but nothing seems to work. :(

kiahann
03-20-2008, 01:34 PM
I'm trying to figure out how folks record the great movies without the interface showing, yet they can still emote, talk, etc.

I know that Alt-Z turns off my interface, but when I do that, all I can do is pan the camera around or run. For example, I can't type /dance and have my toon start dancing. I type /dance and nothing happens. :\

Anyone know how folks turn off the interface but are still able to interact with their toons and make them do things?

I'm pretty sure they do them with binds atleast that's how I did it. with my g15 keyboard.




When I record with fraps, it displays random vertical lines of color on the recording after it's saved. I've tried changing my ingame WoW settings but nothing seems to work. :(

That sounds like it could be a video card issue what kind of card do you have?

salmanq
03-31-2008, 05:05 AM
Whats the minimum video settings ingame that is accepted as decent? Whats the standard?

kiahann
03-31-2008, 02:44 PM
What do you mean? like graphics? or fraps settings?

salmanq
03-31-2008, 07:16 PM
What do you mean? like graphics? or fraps settings?

Both. Maybe should add that I plan to do a PvP movie.

kiahann
04-02-2008, 01:36 AM
Well it depends really you can get good quality on fraps useing 50 fps if you have vegas editing.

sandman88
04-04-2008, 06:02 PM
Ok,

I just recently built a new monster of a machine.

Intel E8400 3.0 ghz proc
8 gigs of 1066 ram
Nvidia 9600 GT SSC (SLI)
EVGA 780i Mobo
WD Raptor 10k primary drive
Vista Ultimate x64

I'm running fraps 2.9.4 (latest) I've tried everything to get a clear uncompressed vid and nothing i'm doing is working.

I've set both the desktop and wow to 1152 xxx (forget exact number, not at home) and when I do that the image on my screen becomes fuzzy (actual in game) i think because my monitor wants to run at 1600x1200.

When i create the video it's just not clear like others i have seen with far less equipment. I'm running the latest Nvidia drivers.

I don't have vertical sync enabled in wow, and my fps are typically over 100, when i hit F9 to start recording my fps goes down to 30 and seems to lag somewhat. I've read that there are issues in 2.9.4 do you think that's some of the issue?

sandman88
04-04-2008, 06:12 PM
I just found this FAQ from one of the Machinma gods.

I'll set up my system accordingly , see if i can get some better results.

http://www.madx.dk/machinima/forum/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=106

kiahann
04-04-2008, 06:16 PM
Ok,

I just recently built a new monster of a machine.

Intel E8400 3.0 ghz proc
8 gigs of 1066 ram
Nvidia 9600 GT SSC (SLI)
EVGA 780i Mobo
WD Raptor 10k primary drive
Vista Ultimate x64

I'm running fraps 2.9.4 (latest) I've tried everything to get a clear uncompressed vid and nothing i'm doing is working.

I've set both the desktop and wow to 1152 xxx (forget exact number, not at home) and when I do that the image on my screen becomes fuzzy (actual in game) i think because my monitor wants to run at 1600x1200.

When i create the video it's just not clear like others i have seen with far less equipment. I'm running the latest Nvidia drivers.

I don't have vertical sync enabled in wow, and my fps are typically over 100, when i hit F9 to start recording my fps goes down to 30 and seems to lag somewhat. I've read that there are issues in 2.9.4 do you think that's some of the issue?

It could be some of the issue but it could be your monitor as well.

I know when I use to record with windows movie maker (since you cant really choose rendering options) after I render my footage would go all green and really mess up:cry:

with those computer specs YOU should not have any lag what so ever on the best fraps settings what I'm guessing that it might not support the 9600's yet or something.

as for the blurriness of your raw footage not sure why it does that I mean the quality of the raw footage won't ever be perfect but have you tried just rendering the raw footage is it still blurry?

sandman88
04-04-2008, 06:26 PM
I used to fraps with a far lesser machine, amd 3700 , 2 gigs of ram, agp vid card gf 6800gt and the vids weren't perfect, but they were OK for what it was.

I typically use Vegas 7 to render the video, not sure if that is the proper way to do it, I haven't re-installed vegas on my vista system yet, still trying to work out the other issues.

I'll play around with some settings this weekend, just wasn't sure if anyone had seen anything like this and had some quick fixes for the issues.

Does turning up your fps inside of fraps help at all? i know the files will be larger in size, i'm not worried about that, just wasn't sure if it actually helped the quality of the capture.

kiahann
04-05-2008, 04:01 AM
The higher the fps the bigger the file size but it makes fraps run better on your computer.

Keladian
05-24-2008, 04:25 PM
Thanks. I hope I can by this later.

gee0826
06-13-2008, 03:55 PM
yea i also agree fraps is awesome, i film my lotro movies with it

Manoquintret
10-03-2008, 01:20 AM
The free version of fraps blows :(

xotix
03-31-2009, 10:09 AM
Hi i got some questions. My pc is fine, no problems. But i dont understand a few things. What should no sync be? Pls a good explanation. Secdon, if i play WoW, i got 50-140 FPS depens on how many people around me...So en exsample. I play BG, got 50 FPS. My Fraps is set to 30 FPS. If i press the capturing button, should my FPS be 20 oder 30 ingame? I thought if i set fraps to 30, it does my ingame fps - the Fraps fps. But i can have 120 FPS, an if i record it goes down to 30 FPS. And i dont like to play with 30 FPS. ALso do i not like to set 1125x8xx cause it looks just ugly. i did now 1,2x1 oder something. Should be working too, or? Sn finally the last question. I got a old Screen. Its not widescreen its one of this old ones 10x9 or something. The moste people got widescreen, i dont want to render it t owidescrren, cause that looks ugly too. Should i just put some black spacec left and right?

Sry for my bad english :) Im swiss not english. And btw, your link doents work anymore. In the starting post.

Hacky
03-31-2009, 12:34 PM
Hi i got some questions. My pc is fine, no problems. But i dont understand a few things. What should no sync be? Pls a good explanation. Secdon, if i play WoW, i got 50-140 FPS depens on how many people around me...So en exsample. I play BG, got 50 FPS. My Fraps is set to 30 FPS. If i press the capturing button, should my FPS be 20 oder 30 ingame? I thought if i set fraps to 30, it does my ingame fps - the Fraps fps. But i can have 120 FPS, an if i record it goes down to 30 FPS. And i dont like to play with 30 FPS. ALso do i not like to set 1125x8xx cause it looks just ugly. i did now 1,2x1 oder something. Should be working too, or? Sn finally the last question. I got a old Screen. Its not widescreen its one of this old ones 10x9 or something. The moste people got widescreen, i dont want to render it t owidescrren, cause that looks ugly too. Should i just put some black spacec left and right?

Sry for my bad english :) Im swiss not english. And btw, your link doents work anymore. In the starting post.

Ignore the synch it's nothing you need to bother with, so just leave it.

The FPS; remember when Fraps is running it rapes the PC and will make your FPS drop by around 50% in most cases, I suggest setting Fraps FPS to 30 or 25, then make sure you edit and render your movie in the same FPS as that.

xotix
03-31-2009, 06:35 PM
But i dont unterstand how it works. Look

I play normaly, fraps isnt running. I got 90 FPS

I start Fraps, set it to 30FPS and start capturing. Now my 90 FPS drop to 30 FPS. I always got the fps ingame which is set on Fraps. But i want to record at 30 fps and play with 60 fps. Why's that?

stormrager
03-31-2009, 08:48 PM
uncheck the sync. Then it should y fix your FPS problems if your computer can handle frapsing at 30 while playing at 60 fps.

xotix
04-01-2009, 09:10 AM
i never have had no sync activated. I just wanna know if thats normal that fraps reduces my game FPS, the fps which i play with, to the number i set in the fraps options. Or if thats wrong, and fraps just should reduce my fps. Look vor example. I set Fraps to 29 FPS. THen i go to the login Screen of wow. There i got about 400-500 FPS! Then i Press F7, to start recording, and while Fraps is recording it goes down to 29. Shouldt it dropt about 20% percent and not dropt to the seted stat?
If i set 10 FPS at Fraps, i get 10 FPS ingame. If i set 20, i get 20 ingame. So theoreticly i should set Fraps to 50 FPS, cause i dont like to play at 29 FPS if i could play and record at 50. But Setting Fraps to 50 is stupid. I used fraps a few months ago, ant then it didnt do that. Why now? Got the normal Settings.

stormrager
04-01-2009, 10:09 PM
Fraps usually records at the hightest possible fps that it can closest to the number you set. If you set it to 60 it will record to as close to 60 as your computer can handle while recording. I personally can record at 99 FPS because of the machine I have but it depends on the hardware you have.

Hedges388
08-06-2009, 01:21 AM
ok stormrager this one is for you: I have plenty of machine trying to record a game that normally runs at 100 fps now if I set fraps to half or full with a targeted recording rate of 100fps at a resolution of 1680x1050 then the recorded material only records at like 30 fps giver or take a few.... So here is the question I don't need to record 100fps (large file) I need to record at like 30fps but I sure as hell don't want to play my game at 30fps, so what gives if I set fraps to record at 100fps the recording is a jumpy 30fps (can't tell its running in the game,fps stays at 100, game runs smooth as silk) However if I turn it down to a targeted 30fps recording, then my game goes to 30fps.


So two questions:

1. Why the lag in the recording at 100fps with none in game?

2. Why can't I record at 30fps and still run my game at 100fps?


Below is a basic report generated by everest. (Just so we are clear on my hardware specs)


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Hedges388
08-06-2009, 01:37 AM
A side note: I realize that 1680x1050 is higher than what is said to be the maximum resolution recordable, however if Fraps is set to 60fps in half or full screen recording it works perfectly. But if turned up to 100fps targeted record speed the recordings stutter around 30fps, give or take, as usual.

So how can I run record and play at 100fps or record at 30fps and play at 100fps, preferable the latter.

Another side note: The no sync option changes nothing on or off.


Last Side note: I am running Fraps paid version 2.9.8

Thanks again

Hedges

x264
12-06-2009, 07:16 AM
2. Why can't I record at 30fps and still run my game at 100fps?

Fraps does sync with ingame fps and video recording fps.
I can suggest to use another tool - PlayClaw which doesn't sync frames.
I'm getting 25-30 fps videos without any decreasing of ingame fps on my intel core i5.
Here it is - http://www.playclaw.com

MingoDynasty
12-22-2009, 08:39 PM
1. You mean there's lag in the video but no lag in game? Not sure what you mean.
2. Like x264 above said. But I'd recommend using Xfire video record. It's allows you to record 30fps while playing whatever fps you want, and it uses its own XFR1 codec that is based off the lossless YUV, iirc.

Side question: when recording at 100fps, are you sure your ingame fps is actually at 100fps or does it stutter around like 30fps?

x264
12-22-2009, 09:21 PM
2. Like x264 above said. But I'd recommend using Xfire video record. It's allows you to record 30fps while playing whatever fps you want, and it uses its own XFR1 codec that is based off the lossless YUV, iirc.

Well, RGB->YUV is not lossless. ;)
p.s. fraps and playclaw (in low compression mode) use RGB to YUV conversion with following lossless compression.

MingoDynasty
12-22-2009, 09:22 PM
Ok you got me there, it's nearly lossless :P
But I've played around with both and the difference is almost unnoticeable.

x264
12-22-2009, 09:28 PM
Ok you got me there, it's nearly lossless :P
But I've played around with both and the difference is almost unnoticeable.
Agree, in most cases the difference is very small.
I saw big difference only when red lines or symbols over black background.

MingoDynasty
12-22-2009, 09:37 PM
Do you know what the main bottleneck of fraps is? This guide simply says to use a separate hdd, lower your settings, or get better hardware. But it doesn't really say which hardware to get.

I did some experimenting and I'm 99% sure the bottleneck is the cpu, then the hdd, assuming the user is already using a separate hdd.

Scrax
01-24-2010, 10:53 PM
Thanks a billion. Had some problems with FRAPS and lag. I've tried both getting a priest to drive potential evil spirits out of FRAPS and even using WeGame. Hopefully this will end now :D

mikolaj73
06-19-2010, 06:43 PM
Nice guide, helped a lot. But your punctuation sucks ^^. No commas, nothing, it's hard to tell when one thought ends and where the other starts. Please find a guide on the net about punctuation and read it thoroughly ;p

I'm sure you want to be as professional as possible, and content-wise you are, but layout-wise - not there yet :)

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