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The MC · 10-24-2007, 08:17 PM

Well what ive figured out from hours of testing and rendering whit different codecs is that it all comes down to bitrate. Actualy, 450mb for an 8 mins video is HUGE. Ive come up whit 16.8 mb/minute settings whit the wonderful framesize as 1280x800 whit werry nice quality so a 30 mins vid would be about 500mb which is superb by any standards. How big the frame is actualy dose not affect the size of the vid as much as you would think. It all comes down to bitrate.

As far as i know the overall quality of the vid is affected by 2 things, the rendering process and the source footage. Source footage is affected by your processor and your screen resolution. For a singel core, the limit to recording at full size is 1152x864 and 1280x800 for wide screen. Anything beond that gets auto half sized. Full size is ALWAYS better than half size. I myself have a wide screen monitor whit 1680x1050 but a single core. While 1680x1050 is a much finer resolution, then im stillin running wow and recording at 1280x800 because the end result is so much better.

For the rendering part, 3 best codecs are XViD Divx and wmv. Ive found that WMV is actualy the most compact codec while keeping good quality. Ive tested rendering same clips whit similar settings for hours as i came to this conclusion. WMV though is restricted to 4:3 which means i can't use it for wide screen. Xvid Divx are pretty equal, Xvid is compleatly free, divx has some upgradeable options. Both have a bitrate option, while people say that 3k is good then they mean that is good quality but the size can still be too big. Something between 2.2 and 2.5 is nice. The drop in quality can't almost be noticed if your raw video is good quality. When i started making movies i couldn't understand the shitty quality and bug filesize relation, it didn't make a whole lot of sense. Now i am wiser.

Anyway, to answer your question what is video 2, im not sure. Its possible that its related to WMV or it can be a Sorenson codec, but that specific codec is like 10 years old.

But if you follow my tips you can create good videos whit small sizes. Also keep in mind that it is ALWAYS better for the quality : size ratio if you render at the same resolution as your raw footage is, shrinking or stretching it can leave you whit horrible results.

10-24-2007, 08:17 PM	#2
The MC Initiate Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 22	Well what ive figured out from hours of testing and rendering whit different codecs is that it all comes down to bitrate. Actualy, 450mb for an 8 mins video is HUGE. Ive come up whit 16.8 mb/minute settings whit the wonderful framesize as 1280x800 whit werry nice quality so a 30 mins vid would be about 500mb which is superb by any standards. How big the frame is actualy dose not affect the size of the vid as much as you would think. It all comes down to bitrate. As far as i know the overall quality of the vid is affected by 2 things, the rendering process and the source footage. Source footage is affected by your processor and your screen resolution. For a singel core, the limit to recording at full size is 1152x864 and 1280x800 for wide screen. Anything beond that gets auto half sized. Full size is ALWAYS better than half size. I myself have a wide screen monitor whit 1680x1050 but a single core. While 1680x1050 is a much finer resolution, then im stillin running wow and recording at 1280x800 because the end result is so much better. For the rendering part, 3 best codecs are XViD Divx and wmv. Ive found that WMV is actualy the most compact codec while keeping good quality. Ive tested rendering same clips whit similar settings for hours as i came to this conclusion. WMV though is restricted to 4:3 which means i can't use it for wide screen. Xvid Divx are pretty equal, Xvid is compleatly free, divx has some upgradeable options. Both have a bitrate option, while people say that 3k is good then they mean that is good quality but the size can still be too big. Something between 2.2 and 2.5 is nice. The drop in quality can't almost be noticed if your raw video is good quality. When i started making movies i couldn't understand the shitty quality and bug filesize relation, it didn't make a whole lot of sense. Now i am wiser. Anyway, to answer your question what is video 2, im not sure. Its possible that its related to WMV or it can be a Sorenson codec, but that specific codec is like 10 years old. But if you follow my tips you can create good videos whit small sizes. Also keep in mind that it is ALWAYS better for the quality : size ratio if you render at the same resolution as your raw footage is, shrinking or stretching it can leave you whit horrible results. Last edited by The MC : 10-24-2007 at 08:21 PM.