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Old 12-19-2007, 01:50 PM   #7
Martinfalch
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Sorry, the movie was average, being long does not make it epic, nor does turning Arthas into a character from Dragon Ball Z. Blazer is also a ridiculous name considering the names of EVERYONE else in the movie, let alone the actual warcraft universe.

The movie's itself was pretty good, but its not AMAZING, the angst got over the top, especially in regards to Blazer, and the unconcluded scene with that elf turning undead threw me for a loop, considering you dedicated a scene to her and her troops dieing, and coming back from the dead to fight the dwarf in wrath armor.

I would give this movie a 4/5, the movie was GOOD, but theres so many problems with it, I mean you even turned Jaina into a useless sop whos only truly successful ability is the fact she can teleport around, and I wouldnt say that you used actual lore in this movie, especially if you at all related Lord of the Clans or Day of the Dragon to this movie, or read all of wowwiki, because the breaks from actual lore are simply too numerous to count.
Well as I wrote in the comments, feel free to enlighten me with the numerous holes I've made in the lore and explain how to better use it About Jaina being a useless sop, then in relation to Arthas, that's basically what she would be in terms of strength and ability, at least according to most lore sources. I could of course have gone more indepth with the Monori/Serphentos scene, but there wasn't really place for it in the movie and I think alot of people would have felt it dragged on too much. By the way, if you consider the lore, Monori's story isn't unconcluded - in every way it's meant to be similar to Sylvanas. As The Lich King is defeated, the control of Monori is lifted and she is able to return to her own control, however as a Forsaken as Sylvanas, hence why we see her besides Sylvanas at the funeral scene - so I'd say that's concluded, she simply joins with the Forsaken in the end and has the same fate as Sylvanas.

About Blazer - did you watch TotPII and TotPI? Blazer is the name of the character playing Blazer, just like Yimo, Thainor, Rauko, Serphentos, Monori etc. As to Blazer not fitting into the lore, I don't really have much comments to that, that's basically a personal opinion of yours that you're welcome to have

About the DBZ If you read the summary, you'd know that I asked people that couldn't handle anime in wow-machinima not to watch it, I guess you're in the category that did so regardless. I can say that before you say that it has no place, consider just a couple of things:

Arthas ended up fusing with the Lich King (excactly like a fusion in DBZ)

Upon the fusion, their combined power was so great that the entire Ice Crown mountain was shattered (Again, obvious anime refference)

The fight between Illidan and Arthas in TFT is also obviously anime-inspired.

There is a Chris Metzen approved manga released by Blizzard, which is played out in the Warcraft universe.

One of the most popular discussions about Warcraft lore on the forums are about the strengths of different characters, sort of in the style: "YE but Kil'Jaeden is like sooo much stronger than Arthas" etc etc - a discussion that is supported by Chris Metzen himself.

Heck, the whole leveling system in WoW is pretty much the same as any "power-level-based" anime you can find out there.

So before you say that I personally turned Arthas into a DBZ character, I hope you'll consider that some of it belongs to the lore too. I don't feel I stretched it too much - the end fight had to be epic, else I might as well just have skipped it. The ingame version will most likely be a raid taking down Arthas with some NPC help and if that's more epic, feel free to watch Pve videos when they come out. Else, please explain to me how, with the animations and possibilities given within wow, you'd have made the end fight epic/grand without the use - in any way - of something that might seem a bit like DBZ/Devil May Cry/other animes

Sorry for the long reply, but I've been seeing these comments pop up a couple of places and feel I should give a thourough reply. I hope you'll respond with an appropriate answer because it seems everytime I explain myself I never get a counter-answer

- Martin

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