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Old 03-17-2008, 01:09 AM   #8
K21Nova
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Originally Posted by Uzbeki View Post
As a last note, if you ever see someone downrate a movie because of music; click the red X. Chances are that the guy will get warned or even banned.
I personally agree that you shouldn't downrate a video just for the music; however, music is indeed a part of the video, and if someone feels the music doesn't fit the video, then they should be able to voice their opinion through the rating system. I suppose the choice of music falls under the category of content.

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Originally Posted by Uzbeki View Post
We have a number of systems in place to keep downraters away.
How about the opposite of downraters, people who give a video a solid 5 just because it's from a guy X? People who give a video a full 5/5/5/5 because there was a song they like in it, and so on? There are tons and tons of those people rating the videos.

I don't like to throw around the word "fanboi" too much, but judging by the comments of some people on some videos, they're simply disregarding the video itself, and giving full points just to uprate the video as a favor to the author.

Then there's the question of "skill". People give average, or even bad videos full 5's because they think the person in it is skilled. There's a separate skill point system so this shouldn't happen, but it does. I've watched a multitude of videos with a rating of 4.50-4.90 or so, only to find out they're not really good videos at all; just fraps footage of arenas with some mp3's slapped on top.

Maybe if there were two different rating systems, at least for PvP-oriented videos? The one there is now, but then another, similar one below it, which would have 2-4 ratings for things like "skill", "style", "originality" etc, and it would read clearly that those ratings are for the PvP within the video.

And here's the catch: if you'd choose to rate the video (content, creativity etc.) you couldn't rate the skill of the player, and if you chose to give the player 5 points for skill and style and whatnot, you couldn't touch the ratings for the actual video.

This way we could end up with a video that would have a rating of around 3.50 since the video itself wouldn't be anything spectacular as far as editing and creativity etc. goes, but then have a high, 4.50-4.90 skill/style/etc. rating.

I don't post on these forums much, but I do watch warcraftmovies.com, and it bothers (at least) me that there are hundreds upon hundreds of ratings of "5.0" on videos that deserve a 3, just because it happens to be some "legendary" player. That makes me often want to not rate at all as my rating would be most likely closer to 3 than 5, and when I do rate it "down" from what it seems to be, I feel like a criminal, even though I'm sure I'm right in saying there's nothing spectacular in said video.

Also, these people who uprate videos that do not deserve such a rating water down the ratings of the videos that actually DO deserve it. Let's face it, you can have a video with a rating of 4.90 made with Windows Movie Maker in a few days out of raw fraps footage with a rather ugly UI, with some mp3's slapped on it (with the tag "mute if you don't like", which I find absurd), just because it's from a certain player.

And then you can have a video that has taken months upon months of creating, with music made by the author(s) themselves, utilizing two or more editing software, with creative editing and all that jazz, with a rating of 4.90, and somehow things just don't seem quite right.
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