Shadows with modelviewer?

Tryton · 02-17-2007, 12:14 PM

Hi all

I use wow modelviewer for my movies a lot and I was wondering if there is a way to make shadows to make the models look better and not so fake. I heard that there is a way to do this with adobe premiere (I think the effect was called drop shadows), but I'm working with vegas. Does anybody know if you can make shadows with Vegas?

kiahann · 02-17-2007, 05:08 PM

I know you can turn on "Realistic lighting" and also change the "tint" of the model to make it look like your in a dungeon or something...

stormrager · 02-17-2007, 07:05 PM

The only way I know how to do it is in Premiere and After Effetcs sorry.

godliest · 02-18-2007, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by stormrager

The only way I know how to do it is in Premiere and After Effetcs sorry.

And how do u do it in Premiere and After Effects?

Martinfalch · 02-18-2007, 06:11 PM

It seems to be a wellkept secret

Anyhow, here's how I do it in After Effects: basically copy your model, put it in a lower layer, fill it black, set opacity lower, blur the layer slightly and resize/reform the layer so that it fits with how you want the shadow to look - ofc all this becomes more logical once you've done the first steps !

//Maquan - Martin

deadworkersparty · 02-19-2007, 09:58 PM

Here's a tutorial, hope this helps...
http://www.layersmagazine.com/3d2d-shadows.html

Tryton · 02-25-2007, 03:50 PM

Thanks for all the help. I have been experimenting a bit with realistic lighting and found some nice ways to make the models look better.

I also got Adobe After effects pro but I still have to learn to work with it. BTW is it possible to make a movie with both vegas and after effects, or should I use adobe premiere and after effects?

Thiras · 02-25-2007, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Tryton

Thanks for all the help. I have been experimenting a bit with realistic lighting and found some nice ways to make the models look better.

I also got Adobe After effects pro but I still have to learn to work with it. BTW is it possible to make a movie with both vegas and after effects, or should I use adobe premiere and after effects?

Vegas and after effects dont work together.

Z.x · 02-26-2007, 08:59 PM

There's a way to use both vegas and aftereffects, kind of.

This isn't really recommended because AE can pretty much do everything that Vegas can + more, and it can slightly reduce the quality of your final render. It's more for if you know how to do certain effects with AE, and certain effects with Vegas, want to combine both, but don't want to spend the time learning how to do it all in AE:

Edit in the effects you want to use with AE, on the raw frapsed files, then render that file at a very high bitrate (like 10M). Put that rendered file into Vegas and edit it with whatever other effects you want to combine on top of the AE ones. Then render that at the final bitrate your video file is going to be.

Makesfolkslose · 03-05-2007, 01:11 AM

I use Vegas and this is a problem for me as well. A very bland, and probably obvious solution is to create a shadow-esque form on a green (or blue, whatever you use) background in a paint program. Then you integrate it into the movie and manually move it around with the character. I tried this out and it's pretty simple to do but the shadow obviously doesn't resemble the character.

02-17-2007, 12:14 PM	#1
Tryton Hall of Fame member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 9	Shadows with modelviewer? Hi all I use wow modelviewer for my movies a lot and I was wondering if there is a way to make shadows to make the models look better and not so fake. I heard that there is a way to do this with adobe premiere (I think the effect was called drop shadows), but I'm working with vegas. Does anybody know if you can make shadows with Vegas?

02-17-2007, 05:08 PM	#2
kiahann Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: USA Posts: 900	I know you can turn on "Realistic lighting" and also change the "tint" of the model to make it look like your in a dungeon or something... __________________ ModSquad Warcraftmovies.com

02-19-2007, 09:58 PM	#6
deadworkersparty Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 35	Here's a tutorial, hope this helps... http://www.layersmagazine.com/3d2d-shadows.html __________________ World of WoW - A podcast about WoW Machinima offering tips, reviews, and video tutorials.

03-05-2007, 01:11 AM	#10
Makesfolkslose Initiate Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 19	I use Vegas and this is a problem for me as well. A very bland, and probably obvious solution is to create a shadow-esque form on a green (or blue, whatever you use) background in a paint program. Then you integrate it into the movie and manually move it around with the character. I tried this out and it's pretty simple to do but the shadow obviously doesn't resemble the character. __________________ Our struggle is interminable. Although those once dead may rise again, we will be waiting, sword in hand. The Realm of Makesfolkslose

02-17-2007, 07:05 PM	#3
stormrager Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 156	The only way I know how to do it is in Premiere and After Effetcs sorry.

02-18-2007, 06:11 PM	#5
Martinfalch Hall of Fame member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 71	It seems to be a wellkept secret Anyhow, here's how I do it in After Effects: basically copy your model, put it in a lower layer, fill it black, set opacity lower, blur the layer slightly and resize/reform the layer so that it fits with how you want the shadow to look - ofc all this becomes more logical once you've done the first steps ! //Maquan - Martin

02-25-2007, 03:50 PM	#7
Tryton Hall of Fame member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 9	Thanks for all the help. I have been experimenting a bit with realistic lighting and found some nice ways to make the models look better. I also got Adobe After effects pro but I still have to learn to work with it. BTW is it possible to make a movie with both vegas and after effects, or should I use adobe premiere and after effects?

02-26-2007, 08:59 PM	#9
Z.x Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 31	There's a way to use both vegas and aftereffects, kind of. This isn't really recommended because AE can pretty much do everything that Vegas can + more, and it can slightly reduce the quality of your final render. It's more for if you know how to do certain effects with AE, and certain effects with Vegas, want to combine both, but don't want to spend the time learning how to do it all in AE: Edit in the effects you want to use with AE, on the raw frapsed files, then render that file at a very high bitrate (like 10M). Put that rendered file into Vegas and edit it with whatever other effects you want to combine on top of the AE ones. Then render that at the final bitrate your video file is going to be.